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I'm not disputing it does what they need. I'm disputing that the system is top-notch.
The system itself could be improved on ten-fold very easily. As with most systems in the world.

If you read up you'll find out I am very opinionated with most things in the IT industry, not always because I know I can do better but because I know better can be done. Just because something is making millions is doesn't make it perfect.

Facebook, Twitter, Google are all making huge sums of money...yet they can all be improved upon. Unfortunately to improve upon it takes time & money. They all have this but don't want to bother, that's what happens when your a multi-millionaire, you get comfortable and don't bother your ass to improve things anymore.
I agree on the idea that facebook,...etc could have been done better (not sure that google falls in that category though), sure. however, welcome to Earth.. I don't think it is fair to expect all perfectness from the cloud software industry while nothing else is perfect, not even our understanding of our software requirements.. the criticism against the guys you mentioned (whither I agree on that or not) is down to their service features (which could be improved) and not to the concept of the cloud.. As such, each system has got its identity and the end use is the one who is driving the industry, I believe salesforce.com and businessvision.me are good for what they are meant to, and they is still a room for improvement.
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Just to clarify some of the companies above. Not all of the companies above host all of their information / services on "the cloud". I know a few of them only do it with select business functions and/or legal entities....
does that affect the context of the discussion?! even if the portions they host on the cloud are not their core, they are not obligated to spend money (especially in 2009) and dump part of their data in a crap black hole. It is down to each business to decide which parts to be done and how.. in the case of small businesses, it is all together, it is not worth splitting it up, and given the fact that the cloud saves them the infrastructure hassle, i can't see why they wouldn't do it..
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does that affect the context of the discussion?! even if the portions they host on the cloud are not their core, they are not obligated to spend money (especially in 2009) and dump part of their data in a crap black hole. It is down to each business to decide which parts to be done and how.. in the case of small businesses, it is all together, it is not worth splitting it up, and given the fact that the cloud saves them the infrastructure hassle, i can't see why they wouldn't do it..
In the context that you mentioned millions of companies were using it and then mentioned the names of the companies, then yes, it is relevant to mention that some of the those large companies only use it for a small portion of their business. It is like me saying that Intel use me as a debt collector to collect their cash, when in fact the reality would be that they would only use a debt collector for 1 debt at a time.. it is a matter of scale and for a conversation the scale needs to be understood.

Honestly, I think we are all going round in circles here and the conversation is getting stale. Clearly we all have differing views, which is great for a debate, but not great to get people to buy.

Cloud computing is one of those things that is going to take time before it is trusted by many businesses. Safe or not, cost effective or not, many small businesses, and by small businesses I mean the type that will use all of the business forums and have 5 or less employees are not going to switch anytime soon because it is just not important enough to worry about whilst their companies are still growing. Right or wrong is not important, trust is important and trust cannot be bought and trust has to be earnt over time. If Google came out tomorrow and said "we are ready, our cloud is here" then some would trust them and blindly go to them.. other cloud companies are going to have to work a damn sight harder to convince everyone that it works.
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