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Old 09-01-2010, 02:11 PM
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That'd be great thanks. I'll send you a pm with the location of the zip file in a moment.

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Old 10-01-2010, 09:33 AM
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I usually wouldn't do this but I feel it is important to try.

As we have mentioned several times its expensive to become a Political Party, at last check its £500 per location as a Party, we have to by law do 2 locations, 1 in England/Scotland & Wales and 1 over the water in N.Ireland. So that's £1000 before any advertising is done to get some votes.

So I'm gonna ask for your wallets, not for hundreds of pounds etc but anything you would spare for the cause (if you support it obviously). Several ways you can help.

Membership - Free, £1 a year for forum access, £20 life of the group/party for forum access & blog.
Donations - All members (free or not) can Donate to the group.

As everything is processed via paypal they do have fee's attached. If for any reason we do not manage to become a Political Party (which i very much doubt as we are getting quite a bit of support) then I'll process refunds via Paypal.

So as stated normally I wouldn't ask but we really need any support we can get so if you can spare a quid or even a little more we'd greatly appreciate it! Any questions let me know.
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Old 10-01-2010, 10:13 PM
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Ok so asking for your money obviously pushed the shut-off valve. How about some support?

We need to get the word out there, your all in a position to help (if you would be so kind).
We have 2 pages, the website & the facebook group.

Our facebook group is UK Against Political Correctness | Facebook if your on facebook please join in & invite your friends (and ask them to do the same) the bigger the group is the sooner we'll get the funding we need to do this.

Want to do a little extra (but don't want to part with your cash?) how about linking to our site UK Against Political Correctness

Why would you do such a crazy thing? Why would this party be any different to the others out there? Well its got 2 policies for a start not the 200+ the rest have. Cut the Political Correctness/Red Tape BS that stops things getting done, and instead of 600 people arguing over ever damn thing they should be asking the 60m+ people in the UK.

If you can help in any way (or have ideas) please post em here or message me!
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I've joined the FB group and have a link to it on my status, so should get a few to join, with a bit of luck.
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Thanks alot, on Saturday we had 80page views, on Sunday it was just over 150. I sent it out to 4999people last night so im "hoping" today we get closer to 15k today (average 3 page views per person)
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Hope you don't mind a bit of banter in the thread Michael, as I am sure you are aware I am a supporter and sometimes a paid up member of the big blue, so with that hat on...

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Cut the Political Correctness/Red Tape BS that stops things getting done
This has been a long term goal of the Tories. Labour have for 12 years now increased red tape and the burden on business whilst making a nanny state of the UK citizens, treating them more like children as each year passes with what they can and can't do for their 'own good'....centralising decisions and by passing local councils at every turn. This has never been the Tory way, the aims on these matters are to hand control back to communities and allow freedoms for people to make their own choices both locally, privately and nationally. The Tories understand the burden of unnecessary red tape that has been built up over the past decade and will reverse where possible unnecessary and wasteful pressures on business of all sizes.

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and instead of 600 people arguing over ever damn thing they should be asking the 60m+ people in the UK.
While admirable in theory, inertia in human nature makes it unworkable, you only have to look at how few people actually use their democratic right at an election to see the lack of interest. Realistically only a few (probably self interest groups) would wish to vote on every decision, most would soon tire of it. The reason we have MP's is to provide our representative to make informed decisions with a closer understanding of the consequences of that decision.
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I actually wont to respond to the 2nd part of your post.

My reference to them arguing over every damn thing was making a point, whereas asking the 60m+ was meant to cover the more "important" issues. Things such as Entering/Withdrawing from the war in Iraq/Afghanistan, Whether we should be in the EU, Why the hell Gordon Brown is running the country when people voted for Tony Blair, Things that make huge changes to the Country - but we're never consulted in regard them.

In total there would need to be maybe 4-5 Public Opinion votes a year to cover the bigger aspects, rather than 1 if were lucky, You say people would tyre of this, but its not a difficult situation, we wouldn't need to visit the polling station etc, programs such as Big Brother, Im a celebrity etc use "phone-ins", and with the Internet at hand it would make it even easier to "collect opinion".

Just a small point im trying to make, like I said the group never intends to win, merely to point out the major lack of voice we as British people have within our Country. To say (like many do) we have our say on the day of elections, these Parties wouldn't be the first to lie to get a vote.
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Old 11-01-2010, 10:27 AM
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Just an added note.

Just think of what Public Opinion would do for the tax payer. If we were to run 5 Public Opinion Votes each year, you aren't "forced" to vote you have the option, say that 25million of the UK decided to vote each time, each paying 20p. Thats 5million, each vote, so 25million total. This could be used for so many things, a reduction on tax, towards the national debt, to improve the NHS, etc.

Since no-one is forced to vote in a Public Opinion vote it wont get tiresome because you dont need to do it, but them people can't use the excuse "we didn't sign up for this" because they have the ability to change things if they want, in-powering the people.
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Even though I agree in principle with what you say, we don't elect Prime Ministers, we elect a Party, who then elect a Prime Minister who is usually the leader at the time of the election. So we didn't elect Tony Blair, as much as we didn't elect Gordon Brown.
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I understand your point on that & I do agree. What I mean is when Tony Blair left & we were landed with Gordon Brown, their we lots of calls for an Election which he purposely avoided for fear of being removed. When these calls were made by the British people it should of been listened to and not ignored.

Whilst I agree we elect a "party" and a "party's views" this is the very thing without our Government that displeases me, we went faught to remove the Monarch & place in a Government yet over time this has got itself into a rediculous state. For example, if I like Labour's views on Health Care, but the Tory views on the Economy, whilst supporting the BNP's views on Immigration I am forced to pick which I care more for, the entire country is forced to pick between which issue is most important. My view is as a Country we should be able to give our views on each issue Individually rather than selecting 1 Set of opinions.

I hope this clears up any misconception on what I previously wrote.
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